The Golden Age (Pertwee era)

[Antilles]

Time for a meaningful (I hope) discussion about this particular event in Doctor Who history which is still relevant today, if not moreso, some 35 years later.

For those not familiar with the story 'Invasion of the Dinosaurs' it shouldnt matter, youll pick up the topic fairly quickly.

After watching the story again recently I was just pondering the idea of what would we do if we actually could go back in time prior to mans polutting ways, before machinery and electronics, when we still relied on horses and cattle to do our work.

By travelling back in time to make a better world, but still with the knowledge of how we live today would man eventually turn to Industry to make a better life, would divisions arise again and wars break out?

Or with the knowledge we have would we strive to live a clean,healthy life, free of greed, hunger, crime etc?

In the story there was only a few thousand travelling back in time (or to another planet they thought). So if they did make it, how long would their Golden Age have lasted? 1 generation? 2?

What do you think would happen?

Personally I feel theyd have set out with good intentions but down the years there would be power struggles, groups breaking off to compete with others. Heck it probably wouldnt even take long for that to happen.

And I do think ove rthe centuries they would again develop machinery and electricity, use the resources of the planet all over again and wed end up where we are now.

Perhaps not, but man does have a self destructive and greedy nature.

[kyran]

Look around we're their decendants   .......................   nuff said

[Tenebrae]

As far as I'm aware - conflict arose pretty much at the point settlements of any size began to form. Presumably because that meant people had time to waste thinking about accumulating power and such.

But... let me say that, you're sound like a hippy and I hate hippies - Trek creators love them, note Voyager putting Riker saving Earth from the Borg on a par with Woodstock. If you can come up with a better system for economics than the free market economy - go ahead.

You want to live on grass and rocks - go live with your frakking scum kin, the hippy. Filthy, poverty stricken and a joke - until you go home to your mod cons.

HIPPIES ARE SCUM. You've never had it so good - so come up with something better than capitalism or shut up.

[Antilles]

[Glaswegian mode] Noo haud on a minute here pal, I make a post aboot a plotline fae a classic Doctor Who story and see whit people think aboot whit might have happened if they succeeded in whit they were tryin' tae dae and you start geein me abuse aboot bein some kind o' hippy?

Whits yoor problem, ya big baw heid!

[Shakes head!] Eejit! [/Glaswegian mode]

BTW Im probably no better or worse than the next man for pollution and Im also the biggest capitalist going. But some people seem to just have basic problems discussing simple Doctor Who plots. Tsk.

Or would you like me to make it a wee bit more simple for you by asking if, down the centuries, they invented electricity again and eventually television, would they remake your Star Trek LOL

[Amnot Borg]

Not exactly the answer you expected; but, have you seen or read 1632 by Eric Flint?

In April of the year 2000, a six-mile sphere centered on Grantville, West Virginia was displaced in space and time to Germany and May, 1631. The inhabitants of Grantville decided to start the American revolution early; the nobility of Europe were not amused.

It's actually very interesting as they try to keep technological and historical information as accurate as possible. Radio for instance is the main link between various cities but they need bigger antennas due to something involving sunspots and atmospheric conditions. Imagine trucks and modern rifles up against cavalry and muskets.

[Antilles]

Thanks for a more civilized response Borg, 1632 sounds familiar, though I havent seen or read it. Sounds great and Ill give it a try.

[Tenebrae]

It's funny how Civ games give parity to archaic weapons.

WWI gave cavalry a very detailed suicide note.

Modern society is flawed due to its overly centralised nature.

[Amnot Borg]

Thanks for a more civilized response Borg, 1632 sounds familiar, though I havent seen or read it. Sounds great and Ill give it a try.

I like it. The first 2 books are free online. I found it very interesting in how the author and his fans mix the technology and cultures of both time periods into something understandable to both groups of people. Yes, their have been fan editions to the timeline. The mystery of how Grantville was moved into the alternate time line is never explained and probably won't be in detail. Still, the needs of a modern group cut off from modern sources of supplies and forced to slowly adapt to a lower level of tech that is easier to produce in quantity but better than what is available in 1630's Thuringia-Franconia(Germany) makes for some great stories.

[Megalith]

My view yes we would do the same things, we would however possibly have evolved past that by now.

[bbbb]

I've seen clips of Pertwee, very impressive doctor.

[Megalith]

I've seen clips of Pertwee, very impressive doctor.

some of my all time fav episodes are with pertwee, The Green Death and the Silurians spring immiditely to mind but i love them all in truth.